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the fiscal cliff. there's a possibility if the white house and congressional leaders could resume negotiations. president obama call don banner to discuss ways to avert this. congress's joint economic committee will hold. today on how the fiscal cliff could affect the middle class economic growth, and the deficit. >> it's 35 degrees on this thursday morning. next, an unusual decision by judge. >> which of two people with a criminal past deserved to go to annapolis to represent prince george's county? greg good morning and welcome back. right now we are little busy on the maryland beltway. not seeing any delays for now but prepare for the morning rush-hour. this is footage from a tractor- trailer that overturned loaded with boxes of pineapples. leaving college park and to 270 the right lane will be blocked the entire morning rush hour. they're waiting for a truck to offload the boxes. john gonzalez will have more details later. but the right lane will be blocked through the morning rush hour. after 9:00 we will try to get that back on its wheels. how about the forecast? >> 36 degre
-style event to sort of drum up support for what the white house wants to do on fiscal cliff. you know, the president after he won re-election essentially said i know lots of you didn't vote for me. i've listened to you. i take your concerns to heart and we're going to move forward. does that apply to congressional republicans, kristen? does he hear what john boehner has to say? does he internalize it? do we hear something acknowledging republican resistance to what he laid out today in pennsylvania or not? >> reporter: well, i think he certainly is hearing and listening to john boehner, but he also believes that he has the upper hand having just won re-election and this trip to pennsylvania today is sort of a larger pr campaign that the president and the white house have been embarking on to get voters, to pressure congressional republicans to get onboard with the president's plan of increasing taxes on wealthier americans. he's traveling to pennsylvania today. he has had had business leaders here at the white house, also leaders of the progressive movement to sort of build support fo
offer to resolve the fiscal cliff was anything but flattering. one republican called the offer an insult. both sides are digging in their heels on raising taxes on upper income earners. the white house proposal includes $1.6 trillion in taxes over a decade, 400 billion for medicare, 50 billion in stimulus spending and the end of congressional control over the debt ceiling. susan mcginnis is in washington with more. good morning to you. >> reporter: hey, terrell, good morning. the president's opening salvo there was not well received by republicans. they balked at his plan. he's taking his message to middle class americans at a factory that makes toys. it's a trip republicans are calling an irritant. president obama leaves the white house this morning to head to a toy factory in pennsylvania. he'll tell americans the fiscal cliff will cause holiday shopping to plummet. >> let's give a christmas present to the american people. >> reporter: but the mood here on capitol hill is anything but festive. both sides say the tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in at year end are unacceptable, t
. the white house is saying publicly it will let the nation go over the fiscal cliff if republicans don't fall in line with the president's demands to raise taxes on the rich. the g.o.p. is pointing fingers, too. you don't have to look too hard in washington these days to see the fiscal cliff theater. >> nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> our goal is to make sure it gets solved. >> the president is ready, willing and able, waiting to be able to sit down and seriously negotiate this. but they have to be willing to come to the table with specifics. >> the next 72 hours are critical. if he sits back and continues to play politics, that will give your answer where we're going. >> some lawmakers are actually going back home to their districts. congress has little scheduled business for the rest of the week. house speaker john boehner is saying that's not going to stop negotiations though. in the meantime pentagon officials say the white house has ordered the military to start planning for the possibility of cutting $500 billion from its budget over the next decade in case no fiscal clif
tweets from americans about the ongoing fiscal cliff negotiations. the white house started a hash tag, my 2 k which refers to the $2,000 the average middle class american will pay in taxes if a deal is not reached. >>> that's how he gets it done, like the rest of us, huh? >> doing it himself. >>> a health scare for a former child star. a stroke that landed frankie muneasy in the hospital. >>> did you know there's a black friday at your doctor's office? why the date of your appointment matters so much. >>> and new this afternoon, a big break in the case of a man pushed to his death on theew york subway. plus, the backlash against the photographer who captured the victim's final moments. >>> a young star in hollywood is recovering today from a stroke. frankie muneasy suffered what he called a mini stroke. the malcolm in the middle star said, he was in the hospital last week, that he needs to start better care of his body and that the whole thing made him feel old. he turns 27 today. >>> at the end of the year, most health care providers are trying to close their books. and many patients are
to go before the united states faces the fiscal cliff, the white house has rejected a proposal from house republicans to prevent tax hikes and spending cuts at the end of the year. no formal talks between the two sides are scheduled today. will go outside the nation's capital to get your voice involved. republicans -- democrats -- independents -- send us a tweet, post your comments on facebook, or send us an e-mail. we begin with some of the papers across the country today and how this latest proposal from house republicans is playing out in the papers. courtesy of "the atlantic journal-constitution" -- here is "the denver post" -- finally, here is "of the arizona republic" -- here is "the washington post" on what is inside this deal -- we want to get your take on this. what do you think? ted in new york, a democratic caller. what do you think? caller: good morning. i do not think it goes far enough. i think it was greenspan that i heard last week said in a discussion panel that a recession as a result of going over the fiscal slope would be a small price to pay to pay back all the
cliff note. fact, if congress and the white house don't reach an agreement, your pay economic is going to go down. the reason? because the tax withholding in your paycheck will increase. here's the back story. the current payroll tax cut is set to expire december 31st. in dollars and cents this means your payroll tax withholding is going from 4.2% to 6.2%. now why is this happening? many of the policies expiring at the end of the year like the payroll tax cut and emergency unemployment benefits were originally passed on a temporary basis. the thinking was that the economy would be in much better shape by now and the policies could expire without causing a recession. >> you can learn more any time at www.wusa9.com and on 9 news. this has been a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >>> sources tell the associated press president obama will ask the congress for $50 billion in the aftermath of superstorm sandy. now the late october storm was one of the worst to ever hit the northeast section of the country and out in crisfield, maryland, along the eastern shore there's plenty of debris out there. hom
on fox news sunday. discussing the stalemate of the fiscal cliff between white house and republicans on capitol hill. i sat down with the anchor chris wallace to hear more about the exclusive interview interviews. >> you had two key players. >> we had tim geithner the point man for president. and john boehner, the point man for the congressional and house republicans. >> geithner made the offer to boehner on thursday. boehner said, tells us, he was flabbergasted and said you can't be serious. it called for doublebe what the president talked about in public. not $800 billion in new revenue but $1.6 trillion in revenue. only $600 million in entitlement and spending cuts. well, that is not one to one or three to one. more revenue than spending cuts. they are really far away now. i understand negotiations. i understand opening bid. for first time, it occurred to me they might not get it done. >> you get a sense hearing from both of them that is a real possibility. what do you make of the negotiation of the tactic? it seems like what secretary geithner behalf of the president brought to t
the fiscal cliff? but the g.o.p. is not so keen on a deal, at least the one the white house presented yesterday. the first offer from president obama and treasury secretary timothy geithner included a $1.6 trillion tax increase along with an extension of the payroll answer it cut and unemployment insurance and a request for $50,000,000,000 worth of stimulus spending next year. now, it doesn't promise $400,000,000,000 worth of spending cuts but congressional republicans call the deal unbalanced and unreasonable and saying there is not enough spending cuts and reforms. the one good piece of -- piece of good news to the white house on this is it shows president obama is opening strong not conceding. we will be right back. arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. but it's also about telling them, you're put on this planet for something more. i want this show to have an impact beyond just informing. an impact that gets people to take action themselves. as a human being, that's really important.
's plan to avert the fiscal cliff. guess what, the white house rejected it, calling the gop proposal unbalanced and not serious. translation? no tax hikes on the wealthy so democrats said forget about it. we thought you should take a look. it totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. the part that stood out to us was $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms. how? in part by raising the age of eligibility to 65 to maybe 67. turning down the gop proposal, dan pfieffer said, quote, it provides no details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will close or which medicare savings they would achieve." let's head now to the white house and dan lothian. the white house will not offer a counter proposal, right? what's going on here? >> reporter: well, you know, i think the white house is digging in. the president said early on in this process that he would only sit down and really move forward, negotiate on this in any meaningful way if the tax hikes for the wealthy expired. and republicans have been pushing back on that -- tax breaks rathe
to actually go over the fiscal cliff. just one day after the treasury secretary said the white house is absolutely prepared to do just that under certain circumstances a leading economist is echoing those sentiments. >> i would not come up with a deal unless it's a really good deal before the end of the year. i would take it into next year if that means you're going to get a better deal. >> let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, democrats are saying this is either raise tax rates for the wealthy or they are prepared to go over the cliff. there must be a lot of fear up there about all of this. what are you hearing in the halls of congress? >> reporter: there's a lot of fear. there's no question on both sides of the aisle. even top republicans disagree with that. even republicans who don't want to give on that big issue dan talked about, tax rates for the wealthy. john kyle, number two republican in the senate i spoke with him and he said he thinks any deal would be better than going over the cliff. the reason is because there's so many problems, real li
's fiscal cliff, but what really happens on january 1st to you? this is a 9 news fiscal cliff note. fact, if congress and the white house don't reach an agreement, your paycheck is going to go down. the reason? because the tax withholding in your paycheck is going to increase. here's the back story. the current payroll tax cut is set to expire december 31st. in dollars and cents this means that your payroll tax withholding is going from 4.2% to 6.2%. now why is this happening? many of the policies expiring at the end of the year like the payroll tax cuts and emergency unemployment benefits were originally passed on a temporary basis. the thinking was that the economy would be in much better shape by now and the policies could expire without causing a recession. >> you can learn more any time at www.wusa9.com and on 9 news. this has been a 9 news fiscal cliff note. >>> i'm colonel will bourn stationed in kabul afghanistan. i'd like to send out a many are rei christmas to my wife and family and -- merry christmas to my wife and family in northern virginia. >>> we are gearing up for a big w
verbal warnings. >>> the politics now and ongoing finger pointing over the fiscal cliff. the white house says it's not making a deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the top 2% of the nation. one republican congressman from ohio tells cnn that approach is just a drop in the bucket when it comes to the deficit offering his thoughts on what it will take to reach a solution. >> if you look at just what the president is talking about, everybody says the 2% and so forth and so on. that generates $900 billion over ten years which is $90 billion a year. that would operate the government for 11 days. so we are borrowing $1.6 trillion. i think the president if he wants to take the deal and comes forward with real entitlement reform, there's a deal to be had. this is going to be a negotiation between the president of the united states and house speaker john boehner and so we have engaged in some charades over the last 16 years where we all pretend to be working in our offices but we're not doing anything to get this done because there's nothing we can do. this is going to be a discussion
. that plan from the president in trying to resolve the fiscal cliff asks for, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. and that's supposed to come from raising taxes on the wealthiest. the president's plan asks for an extension of the payroll tax cut. and an extension of unemployment insurance benefits. it asks for a deferral of those automatic sequester cuts to defense spending and to local -- to domestic spend being. and it also asks, i love this one, a multi-year stimulus package, including $50 billion next year, much of that is going to go to recipients creating an infrastructure bank. the president also wants to refinance under water mortgages. and permanently increase the deposit limit without congressional approval every time. the president in bringing this list forward in his plan to resolve the fiscal cliff is just really going for it in this negotiation. he's aiming for the fences, and he has a mandate folks and he's not afraid to use it. here is representative jim chicago burn elaborate on the ground that theme today. >>
jefferson has to do two solving this fiscal cliff mess. and later mitt romney heads to the white house for the lunch date heard around the world those stories and much more ahead right here on "the war room." >> jennifer: we are back inside "the war room." i am jennifer granholm, thomas jefferson our face's third president, is known for his less than savory personal life. he father several children with his sigh sally henning sadly that has eclipsed his good accomplishment the declaration of the independent the expansion of the united states through the louisiana purchase, he sent lieutenants i lewis and clark on their favorite expedition, it's that thomas jefferson that we meet in the new book, thomas jeff the art of power. and tonight i am so pleased to welcome its author, pulitzer price jon people uma they are. thank you for joining me. >> thank you governor ernie appreciate it. >> jennifer: i am so excited about this, in an era where we are looking at fantastic presidential figures, cesc especially with the movie
leaders about averting the fiscal cliff and achieving the balanced approach the white house says it wants. and i made clear that we put real concessions on the line by putting revenues on the table right up front. unfortunately many democrats continue to rule out sensible spending cuts that must be part of any significant agreement that will reduce our deficit. mr. bowles himself said yesterday there's been no serious discussion on spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there is a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. going off the fiscal cliff will hurt our economy, it will cost american jobs. republicans have taken action to avert the fiscal cliff by passing legislation to stop all the tax hikes, to replace the sequester, and pave the way for tax reform and entitlement reform. we are the only one was a balanced plan to protect the economy, protect the american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. but without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it's going to be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and create jobs.
hard numbers from the white house to resolve the fiscal cliff crisis landed with a thud on capitol hill. congressional republicans called it an insulting joke. here's the big picture-- $4 trillion of deficit reduction over the next 10 years. it includes $1.6 trillion in higher taxes on households make manage more than $250,000. there's also $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, like medicaid and medicare, as well as others. there is also fresh new aending. $50 billion next year in stimulus spending, all for infrastructure. the white house calls this an opening bid. house republicans call it a rehash of old ideas and also object to the idea of a white house asking a permanent legislative remedy to raising the debt ceiling, all of it, the republicans say rather, is unacceptable. now much of this was conveyed in a 28-minute phone conversation yesterday between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both sides describe that conversation, scott, as direct and candid. those are words custom early reserved for diplomacy between sworn adversaries and tonight that might be where
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of that but disaster relief is being held hostage by the fiscal cliff. how much pressure does this additional pressure put on republicans, seeing chris christie show up at the white house knowing that he needs money for his hard-hit state? >> it's a tremendous amount of pressure. part of what the strategy of think of what we're see hearing is the republicans are becoming increasingly isolated. you think about the discharge position. essentially even if they don't sign on to it, the point is they're going to own this mess. they're the ones who are seen to be, as the public suggests, not willing to make a deal. it is not unreasonable. we've all seen those horrifying images from the devastation of hurricane sandy. it's not unreasonable the governor of the state of new jersey would come and say i need help. americans are going to see that. they see the republicans becoming increasingly sort of isolated and, again, it becomes this question of why are you holding the rest of us hostage for the top 2%? so the problem for the republicans is they don't have a lot of good options at this point to get themselves
geithner may have frightened people yesterday saying the white house is prepared to go off the fiscal cliff unless republicans bend on taxes. a comment by former democratic potential candidate howard deen frightened republicans that the debate is not just about raising taxes on the rich. >> the truth is everybody needs to take more taxes, not just the rich. that's a good start, but we're not going to get out of the deficit problem unless we raise taxes across the board. to go back to what bill clinton had. >> now, some liberals pushed the president to invoke the 14th amendment claiming that gives him the executive power to raise the debt limit himself, but jay said today the white house studied that proposition and decided the president does not have that executive power meaning we headed for another show down with congress over raising the debt ceiling. lou: the fiscal cliff and now a new ultimatum on the national debt ceiling. you suppose this is the last condition? >> it's going to be a wild couple of months, maybe everybody thought with the election over, there was going to be peace and
to capitol hill to find out the conditions of the looming fiscal cliff. they complain that the white house has not provided them on how the president will curb medicaid and medicare. if the president has been consistent and that he does not want the tax to go for people who are under too much as $50. he is adamant that any new tax revenue must come from--he once rates lowered and was is that and find a middle ground. >> in bay area a news they have released the names of two girls were shot and killed over the weekend in oakland. a 16 year-old girl and a another 15 year-old were found shot to death about 6:00 in the morning in east oakland. they have been hit by multiple gunshot loans. if they stated that they do not have a modem and they do not know why these girls were on the street along. no arrests have been made. >> oakland police are asking for your help. there is a 16 year-old girl walked away from a group home on coolidge ave. if the staff followed her but then they lost sight of her. she is considered at risk because even though she is set at 16 years of a her capacity is of a nine
on the fiscal cliff. but john boehner showed up at the white house christmas party last night. yeah free booze. that will get them every time. what do you say? hello, everybody. great to see you today. it is tuesday december 4. this is the "full court press." booming out to you live on your local progressive talk radio station on sirius x.m. this hour only. for some reason. and all three hours of course, on current tv. great to see you today. thanks for being part of the program. we've got lots and lots to talk about. on the news here from our nation's capital. on the news around the country. here in our nation's capital, it is mainly fiscal cliff. around the country, duane says it is too bad his girlfriend didn't have a gun then they could have had a shoot-out and other people could have been killed. in syria more signs of president assad's days are numbered and the white house warning syria you better not think about using chemical weapons like saddam hussein did. so we'll bring it all to you. take your calls. giv
on the proposal that was offered by the white house on the fiscal cliff. this is jon. independent line. hello. caller: hello. first of all, happy holidays. not sure. happy holidays, anyway. second of all, you people are journalists. you people are true journalists. i watch every day of the week. and one more thing, that fool that called yesterday, must be a product of inbreeding the way -- i don't know how they let him in. host: before we go back to yesterday, what do you think of the proposal today? >> caller: well, you don't know what they do behind closed doors. what they put out to the public is one thing and from both parties. they both have a little spin here and there. politicians to me, ha, i could tell you a story that happened when i was a kid in the 1950's. i'm originally from new york and some woman asked a politics who was running, why should i vote for you? and he said outright, because time biggest crook in this neighborhood and that guy was always voted in all the time because he was honest. we don't know what goes on behind closed doors. people are getting all worked up about
. >>> a family in falls church, virginia, is the face of the white house push to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama paid them a visit to find out how tax increases would impact them. right now, there's still no agreement with republican lawmakers. nbc's danielle lee is on capitol hill with more on the president's house call today and with the latest on what both sides are prescribing. danielle? >> reporter: pat, president obama said he's trying to highlight the impact of those tax hikes on the middle class. on capitol hill, there's growing pressure to stop the campaigning and sit down face-to-face. avoiding the bickering on capitol hill today, president obama headed to northern virginia. he sat down with tiffany santana and her family to put a face on the fiscal cliff. >> for them to be burdened unnecessarily because democrats and republicans aren't coming together to solve this problem, gives you a sense of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> reporter: tiffany had used twitter to tell the president her family can't afford a tax increase. and the white house released this
his plan to avert the fiscal cliff. at the home of what the white house called a typical middle class family, mr. obama said he's optimistic that agreement can be reached, but again drew a hard line for republicans in congress. >> everybody's is going to have to share in some sacrifice. but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice. who are in the best position to step up . just to be clear i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up, the top 2% from going up. >> woodruff: the president phoned house speaker john boehner yesterday, their first direct talk in almost a week. but today white house spokesman jay carney wouldn't share details of the call. >> we believe it's in the interest of achieving an agreement not to do that. >> reporter: treasury secretary timothy geithner said yesterday the white house was absolutely willing to go over the cliff if republicans held firm in their opposition to raising rates on the wealthy. but it was the administration's other demand-- to give the president authority over the nation's debt ce
will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes. >> so the white house now, christine, is insisting that they won't talk specifics on entitlement reform, which is what republicans want until they budge on those income tax rates, budging on increasing them for wealthy americans. as you know, republicans at this point dug in saying they're not going to do that. the white house feels they have the upper hand here because so many americans, we talked about 7 in 10 think those income tax rates should go up. >> this is a proposal, there are some differences, bowles would not have raged the eligibility age for social security. what does he think of this plan? >> he also thinks another big thing is missing, that's increasing those tack rates for wealthy americans. here's what he said. >> i am positive to get a deal done you will have to have higher tax rates on the top 2%. i'm equally sure the $350 billion worth of cuts that the president put on the table for health care entitlements is not going to be sufficient to get the deal done. there will have to be compromise. >> the w
's supposed to address the nation sometime today. >> the guess call cliff is less -- the fiscal cliff is less than a month away. >> house speaker john boehner and -- may be willing to take the plunge. doug luzader has more. >> the white house is drawing one line in the sand after another. republicans will give in as we approach the end of the year. >> we can solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> the president speaking to business leaders in washington. saying he is willing to make a deal. but his point man on fiscal cliff negotiation struck a much different tone. if republicans don't but specifically tax rates on upper earners the white house is ready to go right over the cliff. >> we see there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2%. >> largely backs the president on those rates. 48% support the plan to raise them on upper earners compared to 32% of leaving rates unchanged. when it comes to government spending, the gop has the edge. to help balance the budget, spending cuts should take precedence over tax hikes, 46 to 30%. and leade
with the white house to avoid a fiscal cliff. cnbc's becky quick is here. what has more impact? the weekly jobless claims which have some sandy issues involved or the fiscal cliff talks? >> definitely the fiscal cliff. what you were talking about yesterday, boehner's comments really turned things around for the markets, all this sense of optimism all of a sudden. we saw the markets go from down triple digits for the dow up to triple digits. we haven't seen a swing like that since over a year ago. it's been october of 2011 was the last time it happened. it's definitely the fiscal cliff driving things. we heard commentary from lloyd blankfein, between that and the lead story -- one of the top stories on the front page of the "wall street journal" suggesting the president is flexible on the tax hikes, that sounds like a deal might get done. you see a gain of 50 or 60 points. gdp up 2.7% from 2%. there was concerning things when you dig into the numbers, it's all fiscal cliff all the time here, chuck. >> oh, hopefully, as you guys say, it will all -- people will rise above, right, becky? >> th
for the wealthy and quote, sticks the middle class with the bill. so with 29 days to go until the fiscal cliff, what would it take to get a deal? joining me now, men on opposite sides, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform and robert reish, former secretary of labor for president bill clinton and the author of "beyond outrage." none of the three of us are beyond outrage, grover norquist, which is why i keep having you back. the situation it seems to me as an impartial observer here is that both sides have now made fairly ludicrous offers that they know the other side is never going to accept in a million years. that does beg the question, grover, why bother, given that both sides know where they need to move, why the games? >> well, it's not clear that both sides know. the week after the election, president obama was asked do you have to have the higher rates or could we have deductions and credits and he said he was open to negotiations. three weeks later, after thanksgiving, he shows up and all of a sudden there's a line in the sand on rates that had come out of nowhere, so
the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverage. >> grover norquist, here's the problem, it seems to me. again, as long as the posturing goes on with fairly ridiculous offers on both sides and lots of political rhetoric along the lines of well, they're not giving an inch, we're going backwards, you can't really go backwards from a position of complete standstill, as far as i'm concerned. as this goes on, the american economy stalls, wall street's nervous, the consumers that should be out there now buying lots of christmas presents and boosting the economy will be reticent because they'll be thinking hang on, what's going to happen come the end of the year, am i suddenly going to have to find more money. everything starts to once again get paralyzed and somebody's got to give here. now, are the republicans prepared to go over this cliff on the pure point of refusing to allow increased income tax on the richest 2% of the country? and if so, why? it's such a small thing to fall ov
. >> is the white house willing to go right over the fiscal cliff. new tough words from the administration just ahead. >> also coming up shg the duchess of cambridge out of the hospital. shows a smiling and
." democrats are calling president obama's plan to avoid the fiscal cliff an opening bid. some republicans have different words for it, joke. >> major garret is at the white house and reports on the president's plan and the strong reaction it got from republicans on capitol hill. major, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, charlie and norah t. the white house brought real numbers and republicans called them an insult, concocted in never neverland. so much for a week of work here in washington to avert what's called the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary tim geithner gave house republicans new ideas on resolving the fiscal cliff. and left with their anger ringing throughout the capitol. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. i've got to tell you, i'm disappointed. >> reporter: here are the big white house numbers. for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion
story, the fiscal cliff debate. and fox 5 learned that president obama and john boehner spoke on the issue today, but the results have not been made public. the white house is asking federal agencies to plan for $100 billion in spending cuts and that is what happened if not resolved. administration believes the deal will be done. john boehner made an offer earlier this week putting $800 billion on new revenue on the table. he got hit hard by the administration and members of his own party. >> we have to cut spending and, i believe, it's super flowous. >> and that is a law, higher rates to go up for the 2072%, including all of you. yes. >> reporter: president obama was speaking to business leaders when he made the comment. he insists he will veto any bill not including tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> the defense department started planning for the roughly $500 billion in personnel cuts. the pin is not talking to the defense contractors of public plans. >>> the council made it clear that it's not following the mayor's lead on several issues. it was evident last night d
. >>> the standoff over the fiscal cliff is putting jobs here in california and alison burns has more on this. >> reporter: and secretary panetta has warned the fiscal cliff would hurt our national defense. he's expected to hold a news conference any minute now. he's getting the order from the white house to brace for massive budget cut us. now, the automatic spending cuts that would kick in if congress does not reach an agreement on the fiscal cliff would force the pentagon to slice about 10% of the budget. the defense industry projects one in five defense contracts in california would be lost. the aerospace industry is projecting that 135,000 department jobs would be cut along with 90,000 jobs for a total of about 225,000 jobs lost in california over the next few years. alison burns, ktvu channel 2 news. >>> 8:16. well, today will mark the 9 oth annual lighting of the national christmas tree. president obama and his family, they will flip a switch lighting that tree this evening. neil patrick harris, remember doogie howser? he will be hosting the event. james taylor and the fray will be amo
a lot today about the need to strike a fiscal cliff deal and what they were doing is tacking with each other, with no new talks scheduled between the major players in the debate and the speaker of the house finds himself defending his own plans for members of his own party. in northwest d.c., president obama is on the hard sell trying to convince a group of business executives to support raising taxes on the wealthy. >> let's allow higher rates to go up the top 2%, and that includes all of you, yes? >> reporter: saying a fiscal cliff deal must include new revenues. the president pushed his plan to raise taxes on household earning over $250,000 a year. >> and i am here to tell you that nobody wants to get this done more than me. >> reporter: john boehner has a hard sell of his own with conservatives upset over his offer of $800 billion in new taxes. >> the plans the white house has talked about us this far, they could not pass either house. >> reporter: a "washington post" poll finds 53% would blame republicans if the country went over the fiscal cliff while only 27% would blame the pre
and the white house. house republican leaders have made a counter offer to president obama in the fiscal cliff negotiations proposing to cut to true knowledge with a combination of spending cuts come entitlement reform, and new tax revenues. there was a three page letter signed by speaker boehner, majority leader eric cantor, and other senior republicans including representative paul ryan. and this mornings "washington journal," we heard about tax reductions and credits that would go away if the fiscal cliff passes in january. >> board or series looking into the so-called fiscal cliff, we turn our attention to deductions and tax loopholes. some of them are potentially on the chopping block. joining us from the wall street journal is don mckinnon. thanks so much for joining us today. what are the loopholes and deductions? we hear those words a lot, but what are they? guest: loopholes or tax breaks of all different sorts, and whether you like a particular loophole or not depends on where you sit, i guess. there are lots of loopholes that are deductions. deductions are those that most people are
the rope line. he is pushing his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. is he standing firm on raising taxes for the wealthiest americans. want to bring in our chief white house correspondent jessica yell toin give us a breakdown of exactly what he has put on the table here because we know that both sides, they start off strong. they start off with the best offer they got, the strongest offer they got, and clearly, the republicans not quite happy about it. what is he offering? >> it's sort of a starting position from the white house. what secretary geithner laid out when he was visiting capitol hill yesterday was the headline $1.6 trillion in new taxes as part of their overall vision to increase those taxes for people making $250,000 more, but that also includes some changes to how much people can deduct, closing loopholes. increasing taxes for dividends and capital gains and some other things. then some other aspects of the wish list from the president. $50 billion in new stimulus spending next year, and then in return they would find $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements
before that so- called fiscal cliff. that's the package of tax increases for most americans and budget cuts that will hit automatically unless the white house and congress find a gentler way to solve the crisis in the federal budget. here's how treasury secretary tim geithner put it on cnbc. >> is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. again there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> pelley: by top 2%, he means individuals making more than $200,000 and couples taking in $250,000 or more. republicans say rates shouldn't be increased on anyone. with no agreement, going over the fiscal cliff would be painful. the automatic tax increases break down like this: households making $20,000 to $40,000 would see an increase in $1,200 a year. incomes of $40,000 to $64,000 would see taxes rise $2,000 and in the $64,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the house talked this over today and here's major garrett
the fiscal cliff? >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. ren, it's only 2%. >> pelley: by 2%, he means individuals making more than $200000 and couples taking in 250,000 or more. republicans say rates shouldn't be increased on anyone. with no agreement, going over the fiscal cliff would be painful. the automatic tax increases break down like this: households making $20,000 to $4,000 would see an increase in $1,200 a year. incomes $40,000 to $64,000 would see taxes rise $2,000 and in the $64,000 to $108,000 bracket taxes go up $3,500 a year. mr. obama and the republican speaker of the house talked this over today and here's major garrett at the white house. major? >> reporter: scott, ther there a code of silence the white house and speaker boehner's try to apply to these phone conversations, releasing as few details as possible to protect the underlying negotiations. nevertheless, cbs news has learned the following: the speaker and the president spoke before treasury secretary tkpwaoeugter in'er
house is absolutely ready to go over the fiscal cliff this january. that's the word from treasury secretary timothy geithner who appeared yesterday in an interview with cnbc. taxes are still the major impact and geithner says there is no path to an agreement that does not involve a tax hike on the wealthiest 2%. even some members of the g.o.p. are encouraging lawmakers to support the tax hikes in exchange for a broader deal on health and retirement programs. mainly republicans want to see an increase in the medicare eligibility age as well as a smaller amount of inflation applied to social security. the longer speaker boehner waits on a compromise, less bargaining power he will have. many say now is the time to give in on taxes. it is a big day in washington state for same-sex couples who will be able to pick up their wedding certificates today. voters in washington, maine and maryland approved same-sex marriage on the ballot in november. and yesterday, governor chris gregoire signed that into law calling this the las
the information. >>> deadlock, that's how people on capitol hill are describing the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. president obama and john boehner did speak on the issue today, but the results of that conversation not public. the white house has now asked federal agencies to plan for more than $100 billion in cuts. that's what happens if the issue is not resolved by december 31st. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe it's appropriate to put revenues on the table. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%. that includes all of you, yes? >> president obama speaking to business leaders when he made that comment today at the white house. insists he will veto any bill that does not include tax increases on wealthier americans. >>> coming up an online shopping horror story, a maryland woman's story may convince you to read the fine print. >> last night we were around 60 degrees most places at this hour. tonight we're some 20 degrees colder than that. i'll let you know how low it gets overnight and if we'll see more warm air on the horizon, but get ready for a chilly overnight. th
for campaign style events on the fiscal cliff. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. so right now all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap. it needs leadership. >> speaker boehner said the president needs to get serious about what spending cuts he's willing to make. but that was news to senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him, okay? >> he's not alone. all this comes as treasury secretary tim geithner held separate meetings today with boehner, reid, nancy pelosi, and mitch mcconnell, and over at the white house spokesman jay carney said the debt ceiling should not be a pawn in any kind of fiscal gamesmanship. >> asking for a -- that a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible.
-span. tonight, and look at the white house and congress and how they are addressing the so-called fiscal cliff. first, president obama speaks in pennsylvania, followed by john boehner responded to the president from capitol hill. then eric cantor response of the lighthouse deficit reduction package. later, nancy pelosi addresses the fiscal cliff and middle- class tax cuts. president obama talked about the so-called fiscal cliff and his proposal to end of the bush tax cuts on those earning more than two and a $50,000. ed -- more than $250,000. ["hail to the chief" plays] please have a seat. have a seat. relax for a second. it is good to see all of you. hello. it is good to be back in pennsylvania. it is good to be right here. i want to thank michael, robert, and the investor, joel glickman for hosting me today and giving me a great tour. stand up so everybody can see you, guys. [cheers and applause] there you go. we have a couple of outstanding members of congress here. [cheers and applause] now, i just finished getting a tour of the workshop. i have to say it makes me wish that joel invented t
fiscal cliff. the president met with high schoolteacher tiffany santana and her husband and parents. tiffany wrote to the white house in a social media campaign to talk about looming -- how the looming tax increases would impact middle class families if the lawmakers don't reach a deal by the end of the month. >> so it would be more like a $4,000 tax increase for us. which would be relatively devastating for our family. so i wanted to share that with the white house. i wasn't sure i was going to get a response. but i did want to at least make my voice heard. >> news4's julie carey sat down with the santanas. she'll have more on why they said hosting the president was overwhelming. that's coming up at news4 at 6:00. >>> an effort to end serious violence, civil war moved forward today. secretary of state hillary clinton met with russia's foreign minister and syria's u.n. peace envoy to try to negotiate a peace strategy. they reportedly met for about 40 minutes in dublin to talk about how the start of political transition. this comes after defense secretary leon panetta warned syrian p
the fiscal cliff. that's the hill newspaper. here's politico this morning, inside the talk, fiscal cliff deal emerging is what some write this morning. and that's from politico this morning. first call up on our question this morning, g.o.p. says address the spending problem and in silver spring, maryland, democrat, good morning anne. caller: yes, well i would like the g.o.p. to be a little more specific because all of them who signed the pledge they want to slink government. i listen to c-span. they're so upset about ben gauzey, which they should be upset about, they don't take into account that the state department has a shoestring budget. people are very upset about the compounding, but the f.d.a. operates on a shoestring budget because they have been shrinking government. host: so anne, do you see room for cut? caller: yes, i see room for budget cuts in the defense department. i'm a senior citizen facing retirement, and i really do believe in some means testing for social security. it's an insurance program. and there are people, you're just like with your health insurance, if you're real
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